Avenging09 Aug 2005 11:08 pm
oes anyone have any suggestions for preventing rural Michigan thugs from peeing on the back of my mom’s library building late at night? I suggested an electric fence but she won’t listen to me.
oes anyone have any suggestions for preventing rural Michigan thugs from peeing on the back of my mom’s library building late at night? I suggested an electric fence but she won’t listen to me.
August 10th, 2005 at 8:34 am
How is the lighting behind the library - could more light help? (and no, I do not mean they need more light so they don’t pee on their own shoes).
How close is the library to a residential area? Could you enlist aid from a neighborhood association?
What law enforcement agency is responsible for the area?
August 10th, 2005 at 11:51 am
Un-thuglike music?
August 10th, 2005 at 11:55 am
Flood lights with a motion detector - and perhaps a strategically placed video camera - might help. I agree with Lyman, they should contact law enforcement and any neighborhood groups active in the vicinity.
August 11th, 2005 at 6:52 am
1. lighting : a big yard light. We also had a motion detector, but it was broken within two weeks.
2 No neighborhood association. Most of the housing around the library are rentals. Two of the houses are for sale. One of the neighbors is in her 70’s and very ill. She is scared to death of everything.
3. Law enforcement: one officer who works until 5:00 PM. The county just layed off half the force and the state has layed off six offcers. There is a group of people breaking into houses all over the area. Our problems are minor.
Things may be getting better across the country, but Michigan is still in trouble. Our state aid has gone down more than 50% in the last five years.
Until this year my library was funded mainly by traffic tickets. If the library had not gotten a mileage last fall we would be closed.
Peeing on the builing is bad enough, but finding used condons in the yard really gives you something to think about.
For some reason they never talked about this in library school.
Erica’s rural librarian mom
August 12th, 2005 at 3:01 pm
why worry about it? Peeing on the building really isn’t “bad enough.”
August 13th, 2005 at 3:41 pm
Strong lighting with an alarm system connected to the police dept. might help.I really sorry to hear that this is happening.
August 13th, 2005 at 6:17 pm
A Case for a Lawyer
This could be another case for a lawyer to get involved - after all, you never know.
August 15th, 2005 at 3:36 am
I’d be tempted to set up a CCTV camera then put up pictures of the offenders on the library notice board/ all over town, although the offenders obviously have no sense of decency or shame so it probably wouldn’t bother them!
August 15th, 2005 at 8:55 am
Caltrops.
August 18th, 2005 at 9:11 am
$30 lazer alarm system.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/78df/
August 25th, 2005 at 5:56 pm
Does it happen on predictable nights? If so, I’d find a few intrepid staffers and friends/relatives to wait in the building and keep watch. When the Mad Urinators show up, shine flashlights on them and heckle their tackle. You can always hope they have shy bladders.
It’s immature but possibly satisfying, and if they know people are regularly around, they’ll find somewhere else to relieve their various urges. Hopefully. :)
October 5th, 2005 at 1:10 pm
venomous snakes that are attracted to uric acid?
October 12th, 2005 at 1:18 pm
Werewolfnip. Attract hungry, bloodthirsty monsters to the back of the library and you’ll get rid of the human pee problem, though possibly at the cost of werewolf pee. Still, nothing is free.
Alternatively: motion-detector-actuated sprinklers. Spring-loaded bear traps. Land mines. Poison ivy. Thorny bushes. Bees. Tiger pits (the kind with sharpened bamboo stakes at the bottom). Quicksand. Tar, super glue, contact cement or other bonding agent.
December 7th, 2005 at 10:42 pm
I wish I could help. I have a similar problem in a new housing development that we live in Delaware. All the neighbors including myself complain of the neighbors kids next door to us use our backyards as the sidewalk. Being that we just moved in, I wish not to create bad blood with the new neighbors or worse their devil spawn. It may cause more harm then good. The option of putting up a fence is available, but the cost is out of budget since the purchase of a new home. And with the deed restrictions not allowing privacy fences gives the childen a jungle jim to jump over a 4 foot picket fence. I thought about the purchasing a Daisy Air Rifle, but want to avoid the law suits. I did invest in floods lights with motion sensor, but I see them running through the yard to avoid flipping the lights, and it does not stop them when I’ve gone to work. So my resolution is to buy out my annoying neighbors kids house and then were both happy.
December 8th, 2005 at 8:37 am
You know what Robert Frost said: “Good tiger traps make good neighbors”.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:40 pm
A Pitbull
September 22nd, 2006 at 11:42 am
http://www.nixalite.com/scarecrow.aspx
try one of these.
April 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Idea: Install a police camera looking down on the areas where they would pee. When they do pee, they will be seen and the next day, in your library, you check the camera and send evidence to the police. If they come every night, it is no problem. Just have them sent to prison or reform school.
2. Put up 6 feet of barbed wire. Also buy a laser motion detector where you place a small piece of metal on the ground, in this case, looking down from behind the fencing and anyone that crosses its path of vision gets alarmed and it will make a huge noise. The thugs will be like “aw crap, we’re dead.” Also, spread muck right before the fencing. Paint the fencing the color of the night.
3. Put a huge field of muck and hornet nests behind the library.